1 big reason to not move on from Java 8

20 Reasons To Move On From Java 8

Good reasons, all; but here’s 1 big reason to not move on from Java 8:

Your fucking application is pegged to 8 and anything higher won’t work.


It’s currently my life. The Application That Shall Remain Nameless is a big enterprise SaaS product whose overall environment I cannot influence. They said “you have to use 8”, and so, I have to use 8.

Perhaps there is a way to circumvent all this; I do it all the time with JavaScript, using Babel to write good JavaScript and turn it into “runs everywhere” JavaScript (and if I ever get around to another big JS project, I’ll use TypeScript). I am something of a newcomer to actual production Java programming, so I don’t even know what I don’t know at this point.

Tangential, I never understood why a lot of the people writing hipster blogs and going to meetups were rarely coming from big enterprises, it was always people at smaller companies and startups (or the recruiters from said big companies).

A lot of the Java blogs at its heyday were focused on seemingly boring stuff; like “ways that HashMap synchronization can produce inconsistent results” or whatever. Rarely, if ever, did they talk about bleeding edge stuff, frameworks, or endless puffery about whatever editor everyone was using this week.

I think I know why now.

The enterprise is a conservative, risk-averse place that puts emphasis on maintainability and support, not “programmer happiness”, because real money is on the line – and not someone else’s money, as in the Silicon Valley VC ecosystem. No one cares about some web framework with hot reloading or whatever; they’re using off-the-rack LTS JBoss or whatever.

So I’m stuck. The Application That Shall Remain Nameless is a straight-up far-upper-right-Gartner-Quadant platform, with a bunch of Fortune 100 users. It will likely be on Java 8 until the heat-death of the Universe. (There are no plans to move it to 9 or greater, or so I’m told.)

Which sucks because honestly, Java 9+ looks like a genuinely good platform. Not good enough to base your multi-billion-dollar company on without a few years of evaluation, testing, and research (by which time, Java 22 will be released). But good.


One thought on “1 big reason to not move on from Java 8

  1. Government projects can be just as slow. Though, I had a non Java project for awhile, only to get back to a project that uses Java 8… but they were at Java 6 on my previous project three years before. So, I was surprised they moved that fast. I was surprised how Scala-like they turned everything.

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